Comments on Revit Rants: In Place families when should I use these?

The view reference tool will enable in a view that...

2011-09-29T08:23:13.364+10:00

The view reference tool will enable in a view that has dependent views. Select the view and use duplicate as dependent...

HTH.

I would like to get some advice on how to make th...

2011-09-29T05:31:26.951+10:00

I would like to get some advice on how to make the view reference tag on the ribbon tool bar active.
I created a match line to show the reference in between view but I had
no luck coz my view reference tool bar was grade out. Please advice.

Thanks,
Bags

Hi Carl,

To answer your first question. It...

2008-02-20T09:12:00.000+10:00

Hi Carl,

To answer your first question. It must be done this way as you cannot create an external family that is of the floor category. Floors are system families (roofs, walls, ceilings) which cannot exist outside of a project. This method is required to trick revit into using the generic model and having it behave as a floor.

For your second question, I find that quite often floors and ceilings try to be a little to smart when you adjust walls around the building and end up doing something you don't want them to...

As the in-place version is not associative the walls you decide when it adjusts. Yes this has its good points and bad points, but for high rise projects with repeating floors I find it invaluable.

HTH.

Could you explain a bit more what the advantages a...

2008-02-20T09:00:00.000+10:00

Could you explain a bit more what the advantages are of doing the floors like this?

You suggest using an external generic family (containing the floor model) referenced into an in-place floor family. Why is this better than using an external floor family and bringing it in directly?

In the post, you mention that in-place floor families "don't adjust when you move walls...This also gives you absolute control over footings/beams through the slab." Just looking for a bit more to understand the distinction.

Thanks!

There are no dangers as such other than never to c...

2008-02-08T08:00:00.000+10:00

There are no dangers as such other than never to copy around in place families around your model as they are not like normal families. Each instance you copy is actually a new family.

Remember that if you do model a ceiling or wall inplace you'd need to model each layer of the element as a solid.

However, unless you have complex double curved ceilings you should be able to create complicated ceilings using the basic tools (ie: use special wall types for bulkheads etc).

As for the 1st question. Sorry for the late response. I just wouldn't monitor the floors in question and as such these floors would need to be manually monitored and co-ordinated. I would need to test this, unfortunately I don't have a copy of revit structure to do so...

HTH.

Thanks for the tips. Questions: What about compl...

2008-02-06T03:10:00.000+10:00

Thanks for the tips. Questions: What about complicated ceilings? We have a couple that are laden with soffits and other height changes.
And walls: are there any dangers with making in-place family walls?

Cheers,
Stephen

Great! Could we get this to work when the structur...

2008-01-12T07:50:00.000+10:00

Great! Could we get this to work when the structural consultant owns the slabs and the architect owns the walls? Architecture would have to make their own floors that structural could turn off. Am I on track here? Is there any way to avoid this?