Comments on Revit Rants: A "Family Type" Parameter for swappable subcompone...

Personally, I have different families for "Ti...

2011-11-11T09:27:21.118+10:00

Personally, I have different families for "Timber Frame" & "Steel/Aluminium Frame" Doors. These are tied to reporting parameters that allow the frame to adjust based upon the wall thickness.

We don't do a lot of residential and have never really had the need to create doors with sidelites/hilites. If I did I'd probably place the sidelites and hi-lites as separate elements (unless I did a lot of them, in which case I might nest them all together). As to what category to use it depends on how you want the sidelites/hi-lites to schedule...

Do you want them to schedule separate as windows? Or are you happy to just schedule them as part of the door?

Lots of questions as always and the answers really define how best to tackle something like this...

do you have your frames set up like this too? If s...

2011-11-11T06:55:38.874+10:00

do you have your frames set up like this too? If so, what do you do about frames with sidelites, and how are those created? (i assume generic wall based families?)

Do you know how to put a grip on a symbol tag? For...

2010-01-08T09:23:23.702+10:00

Do you know how to put a grip on a symbol tag? For instance if you have a dimension you can put your mouse over the text and it gives you the option to drag the text and move it so that it's not overlaping anything else. I want to be able to this with a light fixture, for instance, with its fixture tag. Sometimes the text might overlap another symbol that is near by like an occupancy sensor. Your help would be appreciated.

Holly

Thanks for your help. I think I got it :)

2009-12-15T08:50:57.358+10:00

Thanks for your help. I think I got it :)

Have a go at this, and if you still have trouble I...

2009-12-15T07:17:41.317+10:00

Have a go at this, and if you still have trouble I'll create a new post for annotations. There are 2 ways to do it. 1 is more user friendly (this one) and the other is leaner on file size.

Create your various symbols as seperate families (always purge all unwanted information out of the nested families to minimise file size).

Load these families into your host outlet family.

Insert one of them.

Select it and in your options bar choose "add parameter".

Name it and group appropriately (leave as a type parameter).

Then go to "Category & Parameters".

You can now create your new types and select different annotation families in their pull down as needed.

HTH.

I have 8 different types of outlet symbols that I ...

2009-12-15T04:27:23.530+10:00

I have 8 different types of outlet symbols that I want to just be able to switch the outlet type and have the new symbol show up. So the difference between my types is primarily the graphical representation and I don't know how to change how it looks and save that as a type and then change how it looks agian and make that a new type.

How many different types? If there is only 2, dup...

2009-12-11T08:46:56.155+10:00

How many different types? If there is only 2, duplex and single then you'd be better off using visibility parameters. Just add a yes/no parameter to the visibility of each element and then add a formula such as:

Vis1=Not(Vis2)

This way you'll just end up with a toggle button that flicks between the two.

Could you do an example with an annotation? For in...

2009-12-11T05:17:09.278+10:00

Could you do an example with an annotation? For instance I'm trying to insert a symbol for an outlet and I want to have different symbols(types) for single outlet vs. duplex outlet and so on.

As per your guide lines I have made a window famil...

2008-03-25T14:15:00.000+10:00

As per your guide lines I have made a window family { a frame, a shutter & a grill). I added parameters for nesting shutter & grill to window frame, but getting problem to nest them. How can I attach the rfa files to this post so that you may check them? I have already posted this in AUGI " To many constrain...."

I think I got it...Once I got passed the hurdle of...

2007-11-17T02:28:00.000+10:00

I think I got it...Once I got passed the hurdle of understanding which reference planes were the origins and making sure I have those addressed correctly in the family where I was inserting the panels things seemed to go well.

Thanks again for your feedback and great posts on your blog.

Thanks for the clarification, that's exactly what ...

2007-11-15T11:45:00.000+10:00

Thanks for the clarification, that's exactly what I was referring to. I had the reference planes flexing correctly but I was locking the geometry to the wrong items, which was creating the error message. I think I'll be able to sleep easy tonight and re-attack the doors in the morning.

Thanks again, I will let you know how it goes.

I have a parameter for panel A width and panel B w...

2007-11-15T11:23:00.000+10:00

I have a parameter for panel A width and panel B width.

I place a reference plane at the central point of each panel and constrain it appropriately using EQ constraints.

Give it a go, just get your reference planes working first before you constrain the panel to it.

HTH.

Got it, thanks again for the great insight. As yo...

2007-11-15T10:52:00.000+10:00

Got it, thanks again for the great insight. As you can see I am on a mission here as I start to set up standards for our office. One last question. In you tutorial you say "I then constrain its (the panel)left/right location using its center left/right origin point (use the align tool and then lock it)" When you have a double door scenario how are you achieving this? In my family I created a Panel left and Panel right parameter to control the width on either side of the center left/right origin. Then I tried to lock my panel family and think this is where I messed up. I was not paying attention to the origin points I created per your instructions for the panel family. Should I have a parameter tied to an EQ/EQ dimension for that center left/right origin of the panel family?

I just got home and might have to try that in the morning but thought I would throw that out there to see if I was on the right track....

Those can be controlled in the project also. As c...

2007-11-15T08:21:00.000+10:00

Those can be controlled in the project also. As can the handle location/height. I have parameters for Glazing head offset, glazing handle offset, glazing hinge offset, glazing sill offset...

The only reference planes you need in the host family are those to constrain the positions of the loaded elements and any modelled geometry directly within that family. There is no need to add reference planes for the glazing because it is already constrain in the panel family.

Cheers.

Chris,

Thanks so much for the feedback, thi...

2007-11-15T00:20:00.000+10:00

Chris,

Thanks so much for the feedback, things seem to be working now. I was however wondering that in the first screen capture you have you show a door with glass in it. Are those sizes of the side a top rails set only in the Generic Door Panel or are you mapping those back to the final door assembly so they can be controlled once in the project? If you are mapping those does there need to be a series of identical reference planes in the completed door model to achieve this?

Thanks again for this great post.

In my particular case I have the panels as a type ...

2007-11-14T10:50:00.000+10:00

In my particular case I have the panels as a type parameter and the hardware as instance based.

But you can set it up to be instance based if you prefer. Just remember the nested family has to be a type parameter and then link the type parameter to an instance parameter.

HTH.

Chris,

Once you place a door with multiple ...

2007-11-14T08:03:00.000+10:00

Chris,

Once you place a door with multiple types into your project as you have outlined are you then controlling which panel is being used in each door location as an instance parameter and changing it per door?

Great post, and thanks in advance for your feedback.

Setup your nested subcomponent parameters as insta...

2007-10-15T08:00:00.000+10:00

Setup your nested subcomponent parameters as instance parameters in that family.

You can't have type parameters linked when the subcomponent is set to be shared...

They can be type parameters in the host family though.

So basically you are linking instance parameters to a type parameter in the host.

HTH.

i don't get any error, though it's when i tick the...

2007-10-13T01:41:00.000+10:00

i don't get any error, though it's when i tick the "shared" parameter as suggested that i can no longer link my labels of that panel to my shared parameters.

i have a feeling i might be missing a step somewhere when making my panels...

thanks for the help.

Would need to look at the files mate. Very diffic...

2007-10-12T11:52:00.000+10:00

Would need to look at the files mate. Very difficult to diagnose on that...

Could be an origin location issue, what errors are you getting?

also meant to say congrats on the wedding, i'm doi...

2007-10-12T10:22:00.000+10:00

also meant to say congrats on the wedding, i'm doing the same in 8 days!

however, my door panels won't allow me to link their labels to the shared parameter labels in my door family. my door frame works perfectly, but i can't get the door panels to play nicely.

I have them brought in as components, they can be placed, but that's about it. Any idea on what i'm doing wrong, been running in circles on this one today.

Many thanks for the pointer of making them shared.

Yes there is :)

You need to go into you pan...

2007-10-12T07:59:00.000+10:00

Yes there is :)

You need to go into you panel families, go to family category & parameters in settings and tick "shared".

This enables them to be scheduled. Then in your project just create a schedule for whatever category you've set your door panel and filter out irrelevant stuff as needed.

HTH.

Chris,

I've got my doors very similar to yo...

2007-10-12T07:07:00.000+10:00

Chris,

I've got my doors very similar to yours, though i'm having one problem, i can't schedule the panel type. Is there a way to do this so that each panel woudl be schedule friendly?

Thanks

chris, i think you are your company's best advanta...

2007-10-04T05:06:00.000+10:00

chris, i think you are your company's best advantage. i'm just a humble servant of Revit Guru's like you, trying to learn as much as i can. but i compeletely understand your point.

coreed,aia

Sorry Coreed,

Have to leave some advantages...

2007-10-02T08:10:00.000+10:00

Sorry Coreed,

Have to leave some advantages for my own company :)

You'd have to come work for us if you want a PDF :P

Cheers.

Comments on Revit Rants: A "Family Type" Parameter for swappable subcompone...

Personally, I have different families for "Ti...

do you have your frames set up like this too? If s...

Do you know how to put a grip on a symbol tag? For...

Thanks for your help. I think I got it :)

Have a go at this, and if you still have trouble I...

I have 8 different types of outlet symbols that I ...

How many different types? If there is only 2, dup...

Could you do an example with an annotation? For in...

As per your guide lines I have made a window famil...

I think I got it...Once I got passed the hurdle of...

Thanks for the clarification, that's exactly what ...

I have a parameter for panel A width and panel B w...

Got it, thanks again for the great insight. As yo...

Those can be controlled in the project also. As c...

Chris,Thanks so much for the feedback, thi...

In my particular case I have the panels as a type ...

Chris,Once you place a door with multiple ...

Setup your nested subcomponent parameters as insta...

i don't get any error, though it's when i tick the...

Would need to look at the files mate. Very diffic...

also meant to say congrats on the wedding, i'm doi...

Yes there is :)You need to go into you pan...

Chris,I've got my doors very similar to yo...

chris, i think you are your company's best advanta...

Sorry Coreed,Have to leave some advantages...

Chris,

Thanks so much for the feedback, thi...

Chris,

Once you place a door with multiple ...

Yes there is :)

You need to go into you pan...

Chris,

I've got my doors very similar to yo...

Sorry Coreed,

Have to leave some advantages...